Donnybrook
Donnybrook: March 16, 2023
Season 2023 Episode 19 | 27m 45sVideo has Closed Captions
Charlie Brennan debates with Wendy Wiese, Alvin Reid, Ray Hartmann and Bill McClellan.
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Charlie Brennan debates with Wendy Wiese, Alvin Reid, Ray Hartmann and Bill McClellan.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship>> "DONNYBROOK" IS MADE POSSIBLE BY SUPPORTER OF THE BETSY AND THOMAS PETTERSON FOUNDATION AND MEMBERS OF 9 PBS.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR JOINING US FOR THIS EDITION OF "DONNYBROOK" ON THE ST. PATRICK'S DAY EVE.
WELCOME ABOARD.
LET'S MEET OUR PANELISTS.
SHE'S WENDY WEEKS FROM THE BIG 550, BILL McCLELLAN FROM THE ST. POST DISPATCH.
RAY HARTMAN.
AND ALVIN REED.
ALVIN, WE'LL START WITH YOU.
SINCE WE LAST APPEARED HERE, THERE WERE SOME DEVELOPMENTS IN THE CIRCUIT ATTORNEY KIM GARDNER'S OFFICE.
EXPERIENCED ATTORNEY MARVIN TEER ANNOUNCED HE'S LEAVING.
THEY SAY THE OFFICE IS DOWN TO FOUR EXPERIENCED ATTORNEYS TO HANDLE THE MOST VIOLENT CASES.
THERE'S ABOUT 160 THOSE.
IT WAS ANNOUNCED THAT CIRCUIT ATTORNEY KIM GARDNER WAS HIRING A LAWYER FROM HARVEY WHO WAS AN ATTORNEY FROM HARVEY WEINSTEIN.
YESTERDAY, SHE RESPONDED TO THE PETITION BY THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE STATE.
SHE SAID, I MAY HAVE HAD PROBLEMS WITH MY OFFICE, SOME OF THOSE PROBLEMS WERE CAUSED BY SWORD SUBORDINATES BUT WHAT HAPPENED DOESN'T REQUIRE ME TO BE REMOVED.
>> REALLY GOOD ARGUMENT.
I'M NOT SAYING SHE'S TOTALLY INCOMPETENT, BUT THAT'S THE ARGUMENT.
THE STATUTE SAYS, WHAT YOU'RE REMOVING ME FOR, YOU CAN'T REMOVE ME FOR.
MAY BE THE STATE SUPREME COURT WILL STEP IN AND SAY WE'RE GOING TO DISMISS THE CASE.
REALLY SURPRISED ABOUT MARVIN TEER.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT CAME FROM.
MAY BE IT WAS JUST TOO MUCH IN THAT OFFICE.
DOES KIND OF LEAVE HERE IN A SITUATION WHERE YOU ONLY HAVE FIVE, I WAS THE BEST POSSIBLY OUT OF FIVE, I SAY I'M DONE.
>> WITH HIS LEVEL OF EXPERIENCE AND WITH THE AMOUNT OF RESPECT THAT YOU HAVE IN THE COMMUNITY FOR HIM, I CAN SEE WHERE AFTER A WILD, IT WILL BE LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT, I GOT X NUMBER OF YEARS LEFT IN THIS.
IT'S JUST NOT WORTH IT.
I THINK THAT WHEN ST. CHARLES COUNTY PROSECUTOR, TIM WILMAR HE WAS QUOTED SAYING HE OFFERED ASSISTANCE TO KIM GARDNER'S OFFICE.
THAT IT NEVER WENT ANYWHERE.
YOU CAN HAVE TROUBLES AS A CIRCUIT ATTORNEY.
THE PEOPLE'S BUSINESS I THINK SHOULD BE ATTENDED TO.
THESE GOT TO GET HELP.
>> I THINK THE CITY NEEDS TO TAKE OVER THE OFFICE AND DO SOMETHING.
I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF THE STATE COMING IN, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK LIKE SELMA, ALABAMA IN 1955 IF THE UNELECTED WHITE ATTORNEY GENERAL HAS HIS WAY AND THROWS OUT A BLACK CITY PROSECUTOR.
EVEN THOUGH KIM GARDNER HAS BEEN A DISASTER IN THE OFFICE, I DON'T THINK STATE TAKEOVER WILL BE SUCCESSFUL.
>> IT'S NOT.
I DON'T THINK IT WILL HAPPEN FOR THE REASONS YOU WOULD SAY, ALVIN.
IMAGINE THE PRECEDENT THAT SENDS.
THERE'S 115 PROSECUTORS, ANY ONE OF WHICH COULD IN THE JUDGMENT OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, IF THE STANDARD IS, WE THINK YOU'RE INCOMPETENT, THAT CAN HOLD THE DAY IN COURT, REALLY, IT'S A HORRIBLE PRECEDENT FOR THE REST OF THE STATE.
THERE'S NO QUESTION WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.
IT'S POLITICAL.
>> SHE HAS BEEN A DISASTER, THOUGH.
>> I THINK SHE NEEDS TO DO A BETTER JOB IN THE OFFICE.
I THINK SHE WAS ELECTED.
I DO THINK THAT'S NOT JUST A SENTENCE.
IT MEANS SOMETHING.
SHE'S THE ELECTED REPRESENTATIVE OF THE PEOPLE OF ST. LOUIS.
EVEN LEAVING BESIDE THE FACT THAT WE'RE ONE OF THE WORST RUN STATE GOVERNMENTS IN THE COUNTRY CLAIMING WE NEED FOR THEM TO TAKE OVER AND TAKE OVER THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AGAIN.
>> I THINK THAT THERE ARE LAWMAKERS IN JEFF CITY TT ARE QUESTIONABLE.
I THINK LOT OF STATE EMPLOYEES ARE GREAT.
I WOULD NOT SAY THAT THE STATE GOVERNMENT IS POORLY RUN.
>> THERE'S A LOT OF WONDERFUL STATE EMPLOYEES.
>> YOU'RE SAYING THE LEGISLATIVE SIDE.
>> I'M TALKING ABOUT THE MANAGEMENT OF OUR STATE GOVERNMENT.
I THINK IT'S AMAZING, YOU GET THE SERVICES WE GET OUT OF THE 50th RANK PAY.
>> BILL DOES MAKE A GOOD POINT.
WITH SCOTT ROSENBLUM WHO SAID THIS WEEK, THEY USED TO HAVE 16 ATTORNEYS PROSECUTING HOMICIDES.
NOW THEY'RE DOWN TO FOUR.
BILKEBILL, YOU THINK IT'S A RACIAL THING.
>> ONLY THING I THINK THAT'S RACIAL, SOME OF THE MOTIVATION OUT STATE REPUBLICANS.
THIS IS A CAMPAIGN ISSUE TO TAKE THINGS AWAY FROM THE CITY.
I THINK THERE'S A RACIAL COMPONENT IN THAT.
I'M NOT DEFENDING KIM GARDNER AT ALL.
>> IT'S HARD TO MEASURE WHAT'S IN SOMEONE'S HEART.
WHEN SHE WENT AFTER ERIC GREITENS?
WAS THAT RACIAL?
>> IF THERE WAS A COUNTY CITY RUN JUST LIKE ST. LOUIS, EVERYTHING WERE THE SAME, I DOUBT THAT THE LEGISLATURE WOULD BE MOVING TO TAKE THAT PERSON'S JOB.
YOU TELL ME WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS SOME PLACE ELSE AND HERE.
ST. CHARLES, IT MAY HAVE BEEN ADJUDICATED, ST. CHARLES GOT A PENDING DWI HE'S DEALING WITH.
LET ME FINISH.
IF THIS WERE A DEMOCRATIC STATE AND THEY DECIDED, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANYBODY WITH A DWI SERVING AS PROSECUTOR.
WE GOT THE VOTES.
PEOPLE WOULD BE LIKE UP IN ARMS.
IT WILL BE POLITICAL.
>> WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT UPWARDS, WE DON'T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER.
IT WAS A BILL THROWN OUT.
WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THEN THE BIGGEST PART OF LAW ENFORCEMENT IS AT ODDS WITH THE CIRCUIT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
IF I AM SOMEBODY WHO'S LOOKING AT ST. LOUIS AS A POSSIBLE AND PROSPECTIVE SITE FOR MY BUSINESS, I'M NOT DOING IT.
>> THERE'S TWO TRACKS WITH KIM GARDNER.
THERE'S THE COMPETENCY QUESTION -- >> WHICH IS HUGE.
>> FINE, THAT'S ONE OF THE TRACKS.
>> THERE'S QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW WELL SHE RUNS HER OFFICE.
THE OTHER TRACK THAT FORMS MUCH OF THIS POLITICAL STUFF, SHE'S PART OF A NATIONAL MOVEMENT OF REFORMED PROSECUTOR.
SHE'S ONE OF THE MORE -- >> LET ME STOP YOU.
I THINK THAT IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE MORE NUANCE.
ESSENTIALLY, KIM GARDNER HAS BEEN A DISASTER IN THAT OFFICE AND THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM IS BROKEN.
TO LUMP HER UP IN WITH OTHER PROGRESSIVE PROSECUTORS, I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR.
>> IT JUST SO HAPPENS A TEXAS AND OTHER STATES ARE DOING THIS SAME THING.
YOU HAVE REPUBLICAN LEGISLATURES GOING AFTER DEMOCRATIC MAYORS AND CIRCUIT ATTORNEYS, PROSECUTING ATTORNEYS.
THIS IS PART OF A NATIONAL TREND IN THE MAGA REPUBLICAN MOVEMENT.
THAT'S WHY I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT OTHER TRACK.
YOU CAN MAKE THE CASE, FINE ON THE ONE.
>> SHE HADN'T GONE FROM 16 TO FOUR PROSECUTORS, LOW HANGING FRUIT.
>> SHE CAN DO BETTER.
>> GETTING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL POINT.
SHE MADE THE CASE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE A CASE TO REMOVE ME FROM MY JOB.
THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.
THAT'S ALL THE DEBATE WILL BE.
>> BILL, I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT SOMETHING THAT GOVERNOR PRITZKER SIGNED YOU CAN ACCUMULATE UP TO FIVE DAYS PER YEAR.
SMALL BUSINESSES ARE SAYING, DO WE GET REIMBURSEMENTS?
NO.
GOING TO BE BORN BY THE BUSINESS DECISION.
>> I DON'T LIKE IT.
I'M A UNION PERSON.
I LIKE THE WORKERS.
I NEVER OWNED A BUSINESS.
I DON'T LIKE IT.
I THINK YOU SHOULD GET SICK PAY, GENERAL SICK PAY, WHEN YOU'RE SICK YOU CAN TAKE LEAVE.
THE COMPANY WANTS TO GIVE YOU PATERNITY LEAVE, THAT'S GREAT.
JUST TO SAY, VACATION, ON TOP OF THAT, JUST TO SAY, I'M NOT GOING TO COME IN TOMORROW I WILL BE PAID FOR IT.
THAT DOESN'T SEEM RIGHT.
>> IT SEEMS RIGHT IN EUROPE AND OTHER WESTERN COUNTRIES.
THERE'S WAY MORE LEAVE PROVIDED.
>> I DON'T GET THE IDEA.
>> MOST PEOPLE FAKE THE REASONS FOR THE LEAVE ANYWAY.
>> LET'S JUST LEAVE IT LIKE THAT.
I AGREE WITH BILL.
THIS HAS TO DO WITH GOVERNOR PRITZKER BILLIONAIRE POLITICAL ASPIRATIONS.
REMEMBER THE GRINCH WHO STOLE CHRISTMAS, REMEMBER THE TINY PUPPY, THE PUPPY IS THE SMALL BUSINESS PERSON IN ILLINOIS.
IT'S LIKE, LET'S LET THE BUSINESSES TAKE CARE OF IT.
THEY'RE ALREADY STRUGGLING IN.
>> I HEAR YOU, I STILL BELIEVE THAT THE BUSINESS OWNER PRIORITIZES THE BUSINESS AND THE HOURLY WORKER IS FAR FROM CAUGHT UP.
I THINK THAT WHEN IT COMES TO WHO IS DOING WHAT AT WORK AND HOW LONG THEY ARE WORKING, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS.
I STILL THINK THAT PEOPLE DO THEIR JOB TO A POINT WHERE IT GOES WAY BEYOND 37 1/2.
I THINK THIS COULD BE WORKED OUT.
>> I WAS A SMALL BUSINESS OWN FOR DECADES, WAS NEVER LIKENED TO A PUPPY ONES.
>> PIT BULL.
[ LAUGHTER ] >> I THINK IF YOU WORKED OVERTIME AND YOU SHOULD BE PAID OVERTIME.
I'M ANXIOUS FOR ANY REPORTER WATCHING THIS.
MR. REID.
I'M TAKING COUPLE OF DAYS OFF.
>> EASY FOR ME TO TALK.
I'M NOT PAYING [ LAUGHTER ] >> BACK TO THE LAND OF LINCOLN.
THERE'S A PROPOSAL THAT WOULD ELIMINATE OR PROHIBIT BEING ON ZOOM WHILE DRIVING.
>> THIS IS JUST HILARIOUS TO ME.
WHAT'S NEXT, A PROPOSAL SAYING THOU SHALT NOT SHAVE YOUR LEGS WHILE DRIVING?
OF COURSE YOU SHOULDN'T BE ZOOMING WHILE DRIVING.
WE HAVE SUCH HIGH RATE OF ACCIDENT.
WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS COUPLE OF WEEK AGO.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MISSOURI.
NO, YOU SHOULDN'T BE ZOOMING.
>> CAN YOU LISTEN TO THE BIG 550 KTRS WHILE DRIVING?
>> OF COURSE.
THAT'S PRODUCTIVE USE OF ONE'S TIME.
IF YOU HAVE TO DO THIS OR IF YOU'RE WORRYING ABOUT EYE CONTACT, I THINK THAT'S RIDICULOUS.
>> THE PHRASE IS DISTRACTED DRIVING.
ONE CAN BECOME BETTER EDUCATED WITHOUT BEING DISTRACTED.
IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO IMAGINE ZOOM CALL -- >> BE NICE.
>> A ZOOM CALL -- >> IF THE PHONE IS MOUNTED ON THE DASHBOARD AND YOU'RE TAKING PART.
I HAVE DONE THIS BEFORE.
>> THERE YOU GO.
>> I'M NOT ADVOCATING FOR IT.
>> YOU WATCH A MOVIE TOO WHILE YOU DRIVING?
YOU CAN LISTEN TO A BOOK.
YOU CAN TALK TO PEOPLE.
>> YOU REALLY THINK THAT THE POLICE OFFICERS AND STATE TROOPERS IN ILLINOIS HAVE THE TIME TO BE ENFORCING THIS?
REALLY?
>> I THINK THEY SHOULD.
>> THEY MIGHT BE TAKING LEAVE.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
>> SERIOUSLY, IF I WAS A POLICE OFFICER AND SOMEBODY SERIOUSLY WAS DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD DOING THIS, I'D PULL THEM OVER.
I MIGHT SAY, LOOK, NEXT TIME WE'LL BE MOPPING YOU UP.
PLEASE STOP.
>> I DON'T KNOW THEY HAVE IT IN MISSOURI, LOT OF PLACES YOU CANNOT BE ON THE PHONE.
>> YOU CAN'T TEXT IN KIRKWOOD.
>> I DON'T THINK THAT PROHIBITS YOU FROM HAVING A HANDS FREE CALL OR TALKING TO A FELLOW PASSENGER.
ANYTHING THAT BY DEFINITION CAW CAUSES YOU TO LOOK AT SOMETHING OTHER THAN THE ROAD -- >> YOU DON'T HAVE TO LOOK AT THE ZOOM SCREEN.
YOU MAY NOT BE THE PARTICIPANT OR THE HOST.
YOU'RE JUST THERE LISTENING IN.
>> ZOOM IS OUT.
[ LAUGHTER ] >> WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT PHIL BROOKS, LONGTIME STATE CAPITOL REPORTER SAYING GOVERNOR PARSONS AND OTHERS IN THE EXECUTIVE WING OF THE STATE CAPITOL HAVE TAKEN AWAY THE PREFERRED PARKING FOR MEMBERS OF THE MEDIA.
I THINK THIS IS ANOTHER SHOT AGAINST THE MEDIA.
I THINK THAT THE MEDIA HAVE A ROLE TO PLAY AND IT'S SO JAMMED THERE.
THAT SECTION OF JEFFERSON CITY AND THE MEDIA IS SO IMPORTANT, THERE SHOULD BE DESIGNATED SPOTS FOR THOSE REPORTERS.
IT'S PETTY ON THE GOVERNOR'S PART TO TAKE THAT AWAY.
>> I HAVE SO MUCH RESPECT FOR PHIL BROOKS.
HE HAS BEEN DOING THIS JOB AND DOING IT BRILLIANTLY FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
I THINK WHEN IT COMES TO THE AFOREMENTIONED, THE PEOPLE'S BUSINESS, WHICH IS WHAT YOU DOING AS A REPORTER, I THINK FROM 30,000 FEET, THIS SEEMS KIND OF SILLY.
YOU TOOK MY PREFERRED PARKING.
THAT SEEMS SILLY.
THE JOB THAT YOU'RE DOING IS TO REPORT ON WHAT IS GOING ON AT THE STATE CAPITOL.
IT'S NOT ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THE COFFEE IS WARM.
I KNOW THAT'S NOT HOW HE MEANS IT.
I BELIEVE, THOUGH, THAT'S THE PERCEPTION.
>> IT IS PETTY.
I THINK IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE LIKE, COME ON, THINK ABOUT WHEN WE WERE YOUNGER.
NOTHING WOULD STOP US FROM DOING OUR JOBS.
YOU GOT TO HARKEN BACK TO THAT.
ALSO, DON'T GET MAD AND GET EVEN.
I WOULD REQUEST EVERY PARKING CONTRACT -- [ INDISCERNIBLE ] , WE WILL SEE MR.
GOVERNOR.
>> WE'LL BE DOING SOME REPORTING.
>> I THOUGHT IT WAS OVERSTATED.
>> CERTAINLY, THE PUBLIC INTERESTED IN THE JEFFERSON CITY PRESS CORE -- >> I WILL BE THE ONE THAT SHOWS RESPECT FOR MR. BROOKS.
I UNDERSTAND.
THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO PLAY WELL NECESSARILY WITH FOLKS.
I THINK IT'S GOOD THAT HE CALLED OUT THE GOVERNOR BECAUSE HE IS SUCH A DOWN THE MIDDLE GUY.
HE'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S ACCUSED OF PARTISANSHIP.
THIS IS A GOVERNOR THAT WANTED TO CRIMINA CRIMINALLY -- HE WANTED TO SICK HIGHWAY PATROL.
THIS IS THE SAME GUY WHO WANTED TO DO THAT.
THERE WAS ANOTHER CASE IN WHICH HE WAS -- IT'S DISAPPOINTING.
MARK PARSONS CAME IN WITH A REPUTATION LIKE A NICE GUY.
I DO THINK THAT SOMEBODY DOWN THE MIDDLE PHIL BROOKS TAKES THIS PERSONALLY, I THINK, IT REALLY IS SOMETHING THAT WILL RESONATE WITH LOT OF PEOPLE IN JEFFERSON CITY.
>> WE NEED THESE REPORTERS.
THEY DON'T MAKE A LOT OF MONEY.
I'M SURPRISED WE'RE ALL NOT SUPPORTING THEM.
MAY BE I FEEL A LITTLE BIT OVER THE TOP ON THIS ONE.
I HEARD MARIA KEENAN STORY ON KMOX.
SHE WENT TO THE SCHLFAFLY LIBRARY.
SHE WAS KICKED OUT LAST NIGHT FOR SOLICITING.
THEY SAY THERE'S NO SOLICITORS.
THEY SAID BE ON YOUR WAY.
IT WAS THIS MORNING'S KMOX REPORT.
YOU GOT TO SUPPORT YOUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS.
>> YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT LOSING PREFERRED PARKING.
THAT IS MUCH DIFFERENT ISSUE THAN THE GOVERNOR TRYING TO HIM ARRESTED.
IT'S A DIFFERENT ISSUE YOUR FORMER COLLEAGUE GETTING THROWN OUT OF A PUBLIC MEETING.
>> WE'RE LIVING IN A TIME WE HAD A FORMER PRESIDENT DECLARED THE PRESS ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE.
I THINK MIKE PARSON IS PART OF THAT.
I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT SIMPLE.
>> I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT BILLION DOLLAR PLAN TO PUT A BILLION DOLLARS IN NORTH ST. LOUIS.
GREATER ST. LOUIS INC.
LOOKING AT THE CENTRAL WEST CORRIDOR.
BILLION DOLLARS NORTH OF DELMAR.
>> WE TALKING ABOUT GENERATIONS.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TENS, HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS A YEAR ASSIGNED TO THE CENTRAL WEST CORRIDOR OR SOUTH.
TO ME, WHAT TISHAURA JONES REALLY DOING IS PROPOSING A COUNTEROFFER THAT WILL REALLY -- I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE TAKEN SO LITERALLY.
SOME PEOPLE PROBABLY WILL.
I THINK THE FACT THAT WE NEED THE INVESTMENT, MOST CERTAINTILY, GREATER ST. LOUIS HAVE SHOWN ZERO COMMITMENT.
FOR ALL THE TALK.
THERE'S NO COMMITMENT NORTH OF ST. LOUIS.
NORTH OF DELMAR, PERIOD.
>> YOU KNOW IT'S A NUMBER.
BILLION DOLLARS WILL BE GREAT.
I DON'T SEE WHERE THAT MONEY IS COMING FROM.
ANOTHER ROUND OF FEDERAL SUPPORT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I AGREE WITH YOU.
YOU SAY A NUMBER.
I LIKE TO REACH THAT NUMBER.
IN REALITY, I DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING UNLESS SHE WAS GOING TO BE THE MAYOR FOR FOUR MORE TERMS.
IT'S NOT BAD.
AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S KIND OF LIKE SAN FRANCISCO PROMOTED TO GIVE ALL 5 MILLION BLACK PEOPLE IN SAN FRANCISCO FOR REPARATIONS.
IT'S A TALKING POINT ON FOX.
LIKE SHE WANTS TO PUT A BILLION DOLLARS.
SHE SAID IT WILL BE NICE TO PUT A BILLION DOLLARS.
>> I HOPE IT WORKS.
I THINK IT'S NECESSARY.
THERE'S SOME OF THE LANGUAGE EQUITABLE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY DOWNTOWN.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT IT IS.
CERTAINLY, THE NORTH SIDE NEEDS A LOT OF HELP.
MAYOR JONES WAS ELECTED ON THE BASIS OF I'M GOING TO TRY TO EVEN THINGS OUT.
>> EXACTLY.
SHE'S KEEPING HER PROMISE.
I GO BACK TO THE STORY THAT WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT.
THAT'S GOING TO BE EASIER TO DO IF YOU HAVE A COMPETENT CIRCUIT ATTORNEY.
>> I WANT TO SAY THAT, ONE OF THE THINGS I CATCH MYSELF DOING, A BILLION DOLLARS USED TO BE A NUMBER THAT WAS HIGH.
I HAVE LEARNED THAT'S NOT AS MUCH MONEY AS IT USED TO BE.
IT'S STILL REALLY UP THERE.
BUT IT IS NOT AS CRAZY AS IT ONCE SOUND.
>> I DROVE DOWN GRAND NORTH ALL THE WAY.
AS I WAS DRIVING DOWN, I'M LOOKING AT SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT REASON DEVASTATED, I WAS THINKING, TO FIX EVEN A BLOCK, IT WILL BE $400,000 FOR THIS HOUSE AND PUT ANDERSEN WINDOWS ON THIS HOUSE.
YOU CAN GO THROUGH COUPLE OF MILLION DOLLARS AND NOT EVEN HAVE THE BLOCK FIXED.
>> I THINK THAT'S TRUE.
, WE TALKED ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY AND THE MONEY THAT AIR POLICE OFFICERS ARE GETTING NOW.
THEY WILL BE PAID $54,000 A YEAR WHEN THEY START.
OTHER WEEKEND, I WAS IN CLEVELAND, THEY ARE MAKING CLOSE TO $70,000 TO START.
UPPER $60,000 IN COLUMBUS, INDIANAPOLIS AND CINCINNATI.
>> ALSO ALL BIGGER THAN ST. LOUIS.
THE BIGGER YOUR METROPOLITAN AREA, THE MORE MONEY YOU MAKE.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT COVERS THE DIFFERENCE.
WE MAKE MORE MONEY THAN THEY DO IN PINE BLUFF.
>> THOSE ARE COMPARABLE CITIES.
CINCINNATI, COLUMBUS, THEY ARE BRINGING IN MORE MONEY.
>> WE ALL AGREE WITH YOU.
THE POLICE SHOULD BE MAKING MORE MONEY.
>> IF YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND A BILLION DOLLARS, YOU SHOULD SPEND IT ON POLICE.
>> NO, SHE'S TALKING ABOUT MAKING AN INVESTMENT IN A PART OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT HAS BEEN THE SUBJECT OF DISINVESTMENT AND LACK OF EQUITY FOR LITERALLY DECADES, CENTURIES.
SHE'S RIGHT.
IT'S LEADERSHIP ON HER PART.
IT'S WHAT SHE WAS ELECTED TO DO.
I THINK IT'S GREAT.
>> THOSE COMMENT WILL BE THE LETTER ONE.
LET'S GO TO THE MAIL BAG.
REGARDING VISITORS TO ST. LOUIS, CONSIDER THAT MISSOURI IS FEMALE SLAVE STATE WITH DRACONIAN ANTI-ABORTION LAW.
PEACE FROM VALERIE ALBERTTON DICKSON.
WE HEARD FROM TOM.
SPEEDING PROBLEM CAN BE SOLVED WITH SPEED BUMPS.
THANKS, TOM.
I BELIEVE THAT ARCH VISITOR NUMBERS ARE DOWN, VISITORS CAN'T DRIVE PAST THE ARCH.
YOU CAN WRITE US CARE OF 9 PARTLY CLOUDY SKIES.
9 -- 9 PBS.
APPLE, SPOTIFY, TUNE IN AND GOOGLE PLAY.
THANKS FOR JOINING YOU.
THE QUESTION IS, ARE TRANSGENDER RIGHTS IN MISSOURI UNDER ATTACK?
WE'LL TACKLE THAT ON "NEXT UP."
ALVIN AND I WILL BE RIGHT BACK.
>> "DONNYBROOK" IS MADE POSSIBLE BY SUPPORTER OF THE BETSY AND THOMAS PETTERSON FOUNDATION AND MEMBERS OF 9 PBS.

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