Good evening and welcome to Arizona Horizon.

I'm Ted Simons.

We begin tonight show with our as votes candidates in conversation as we hear from one of the Republican candidates running for attorney general.

We welcome Rodney Glassman, the private attorney who serves in the US Air Force Judge Advocate General's Corps Reserves.

We should note that Senate President Warren Petersen is also running for attorney general in the Republican primary.

Peterson was invited to participate tonight but he declined that invitation.

Rodney, good to see you again.

Thank you so much for joining you for appreciate your time and for you being here.

Why are you running for this office?

Ted, I'm running for attorney general, to protect our law enforcement, to protect our kids and to protect Arizona's prosperity.

Arizona is in a crazy place right now.

As you know, President Trump won Arizona by ove five percentage points in 2024.

But we right now have what I describe as an insane Democrat attorne general who has sued the Trump administration, 41 times in the past 16 months.

And we need an attorney general that's going to be more focused on protecting Arizonans.

And that's why I'm running.

Well, let's get let's get right to that.

I think it's 41 times here.

The latest with the Ice facility in surprise.

Would you have fought you would not have fought the feds on that particular facility, turning a warehous into a human detention center.

Ted, what I've said consistently is that because of the fact that Chris Mayes ran on suing President Trump, on suing to make sure that biological boys can compete against girls, to create what I describe as a resistance resume.

Every single decision that Christmas has made since she's gotten into office is suspect because of the fact that all she's doing is attacking our Arizona way of life.

But the question stands would you have fought?

I mean, people in surprise.

They're not happy with this thing.

And now it looks like funding for it has been paused.

And she's filed suit against it.

Would you have filed it?

Would you?

It's one thing to say you support the president.

It's another to say that particular idea is not a good one.

And, Ted, one of the challenges that Chris Mayes has, and I'll answer the question, is that Chri Mayes has never practiced law.

I'm sure you've hired an attorney before, and so many of your viewers, when you hire an attorney, it's not always to file a lawsuit.

Sometime it's just to work on a solution.

So as attorney general, what I would have done and what I will do as attorney general, any time there's a challenge where there's an issue that Arizona needs an answer from the federal government, I'm going to pick up the phone.

And that's the problem we have now.

Every time that Chris Maye feels that she can raise money, she files a lawsuit.

She sends out a press release, and then she asks liberals across the country to send her money.

And I'm going to give you one good example, please.

I was just in Yuma a few months ago with the Maricopa County sheriff, Jerry Sheridan.

He's the chairman of our campaign.

And we were down at the border and to a great extent, it's secure.

President Trump's done a great job, but we visited the Yuma medical center and the Yuma medical center during the Biden surges, provided over $20 millio worth of UN reimbursed services from the federal government to illegals.

Imagine if we had an attorney general who, instead of filing lawsuit and sending out press releases to raise money, actually worked collaboratively on behalf of Arizona and could call the federal government and say, hey, you need to return that money.

You need to provide those resources back to the Yuma medical center.

We don't have someone that's working with everyone.

We have someone working to file lawsuits to raise money so she can run for her next office.

Well, we also have someone who filed a lawsuit, regarding the Trump executive order to limit of ballots by mail.

Says it interferes wit Arizona's, mail in ballot law.

Again.

Was it wrong to go after the president, the administration on something that a lot of Arizonans feel is, first of all, a right at first?

Secondly, it's the law.

I mean, what is she supposed to do?

What Chris Mayes should be doing is working on behalf of Arizonans, not just filing lawsuits, sending out press, but is filing also not working on behalf of Arizona?

It's not Ted, because she's not being successful with their lawsuits.

The only thing she's been successful with is her fundraising.

The reality is, and, Ted, we're in this Republican primary right now, as you shared, I'm a lieutenant colonel in the United States Air Force JAG Corps.

I'm a reservist out at Luke Air Force Base.

What that means is that when I put on my uniform to go out to Luke, I run the active duty legal office of over 25 Jags paralegals and support staff.

That means that I've ran a law office, and the attorney general runs the largest law office in the state.

Over 400 attorneys and a thousand support staff providing all the legal services for every state agency.

If Chris May spent more time focuse on the Department of Education on helping Child Protectiv Services, on rooting out waste, fraud and abuse with the 60 investigators that she has, instead of sending them to Florida to investigate an 85 year old mayor, Rudy Giuliani.

Because of the 2020 election, I believe that she would be doing a better job of serving Arizonans, and that's why I want to fire her.

This.

No, you just said that she never win.

She just won.

As far as state voter registration rolls, the judge dismissed that.

And that's wh my wife says, never say never.

But the reality i there's been 41 lawsuits filed.

She has a losing record.

And here's one of the challenges, Ted, we fund her lawsuits.

The Arizona state legislature, led by my primary opponent who refused to show up tonight, sends the attorney general's office money.

So that she can file these lawsuits.

And when they fail, when her indictments fall, you know what she does?

She just refills them again.

She's been milking the Arizona taxpayer in order to fundraise for her campaign.

And that's the challenge.

So I'll go back to your question, which is, as attorney general, I will work collaboratively with the administration representing Arizonans.

She ran on suing Trump.

She ran on fighting to make sure that biological boys, that's what she ran.

Yeah, we got we got that.

And will we'll we can debate the idea of a losing record there, but we don't have time for that because I want to ask yo a question on a basic question.

You're obviously very supportive of Donald Trump.

President Trump.

I got to ask you, our elections in Arizona, rigged was a 2020 election in Arizona rigged so that Donald Trump could not win the presidency.

Ted, when I visit groups across Arizona, I ask one question and I ask it everywhere I go.

Do you think that Arizona currently enforces the election laws that are on the books?

And the answer everywhere I go is no.

Did you know that ballot harvesting in Arizona is illegal?

Yes, I do know that.

You know, those drop boxes are supposed to be monitored.

I also know that I asked you a question regarding the 2020 election.

We will never know.

And the reason why we never know.

Because.

Because the only person that could have opened an investigation in 2020 secured the ballots secured the election materials, not have had issues with chain of custody and actually don an investigation would have been the attorney general.

Ted 2006.

Do you remember in southern Arizona, there was a Regional Transportation Authority election, and down there it wasn't supposed to pass.

There was polling, and the polling said it wasn't supposed to pass.

And at the last minute it did.

And Democrats in southern Arizona, they cried election fraud.

Who did they call the attorney general wh came down to southern Arizona, who secured the ballots, reran the election?

What was the name o that attorney general in 2006?

Let's let's, Larry Gardner.

Yeah.

You know, let's let's get back, though, to the idea that you can't say and I asked just the Republicans a lot because it's almost a litmus test.

Now, you can't say that Donald Trump lost Arizona in 2020.

Ted, can you say that wasn't the question that you asked?

You said was the election stolen?

Was was that and I asked yo the question, whose job was it?

That's who knew that we will never know, Ted, because the only person that could have opened an investigation secured the ballots and routed that out, would have been the attorney general who didn't do his job.

But it brings up a good issu if we have an attorney general like Chris Mays or an attorney general like my current primary opponent, Warren Peterson, neither of them have ever served as a prosecutor.

And that's a challenge because any general is a process.

This is a this is a primary election.

That's the year we're talking about here.

You are running against Warren Peterson here.

Why should Republican voters trust someone who can't even admit to an electio result that has been challenged so many times, is there's never been any proo that there was a rigged election in Arizona.

Zero.

Ted.

There was no investigation.

There had been.

You can't there was information brought the attorney General's office and the attorney general, may he rest in peace, did not open investigation, did not secure the ballot.

Why do you think why do you think he did not?

He said, oh, that's easy because he was running for a United State.

He's an attorney general.

Why did he not open up?

Because he was running for United States Senate.

And, Ted, may he rest in peace.

He was a good man.

His wife is a very decorated judge.

She has two wonderful daughters.

But at the end of the day, Ted, you asked.

And my response is, we will never know.

But what I will tell you, the attorney will never know.

The election is a horse.

Arizona?

No.

You asked, was it stolen?

I said, we will never know because no one ever did.

An investigation has been.

I can't open an investigatio on whether or not you come from Mars, right?

Because you know why?

Because you're not the attorney general.

Because he's the current attorney.

Evidence that you come from Mars.

And how you have to show evidence.

How do you get evidence, Ted you do an investigation, right?

But investigation in Arizona in charge and castigating.

And I still can't get you the Donald Trump lost the 2020 election.

Donald.

The election was certified.

You asked if it was stolen.

All right.

I said no one was trying to do the last, last question here.

Again, I'm asking why you ran for running for this particular office.

Because we've we've met before.

We've had conversations before.

You've run for corporation commission.

Maricopa County assessor, attorney general in 2022, you ran against a John McCain as a Democrat years ago.

You are a Democrat until 2015.

Why are you now a Republican like President Trump, like President Reagan, and like countless of your viewers?

I'm sure I left the Democrat Party.

I studied and went to law school down at the University of Arizona.

And the Democrat Party that I was a part of in 2010 has gone insane.

Their current attorne general is busy filing lawsuits.

The biological boys can compete against girls.

That's not the party that I was a part of.

And during that same period, Ted, I got married, had two daughters, served in the military.

I'm now lieutenant colonel at Luke.

And on June 16th, 2015, the day that President Trump announced, I registered Republican.

And I'm proud to be a Republican, and I hope more Arizonans will focus on the fact that we need to be focused on protecting Arizona's law enforcement, our kids, and our prosperity right now.

Republicans last question.

Republican primary, Republican voters have a choice.

Either the president of the state Senate or you.

Why should they choose you over him?

Ted, I'm a lieutenant colone in the Jack core is a reservist.

I've been a practicing attorney for 20 years.

My Republican primary opponent Warren Petersen, who's 50 years old, got his law license 28 months ago.

He's never had a client.

He's never prosecuted a criminal.

He doesn't even carry errors and omission insurance.

And if Republicans nominate a candidate with zero experience as a lawyer to run against Chris May is the only thing we're going to get i four more years of Chris Mays.

And we cannot afford that here in Arizona.

Rodney Glassman, again, attorney general candidate, Republican running for office, sir.

Good to see you.

Thanks for joining us.

Thank you very much.

And our next as votes, candidates and conversation is set for Tuesday as we hear from candidates running in the Republican primary for Arizona's first Congressional District.

That's Tuesday, May 5th at 5 p.m.

and again at 10 p.m.

right here on Arizona Horizon.

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