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We're so glad that you can join us tonight.

We're coming to you from Sumter South Carolina with Making it Grow and it's a live show which makes it fun because we never know what's going to happen.

but I do know some things that are going to happen tonight because we know we can have the question of the week that Terasa comes up with this and we're haveing two segments.

we're having one where John Nelson and I get to visit seep.

if you don't what a seep is.

stay tuned and you'll be educated to that and we also have some of the Clemson Rural health and nutrition people here.

to talk about ways that they are trying to help people deal with hypertension.

which is a huge problem since we're kind of in that stroke belt.

so we're glad that you're going to be with us and I'm glad that I get to be here I'm Amanda McNulty and I get to have nice good friends who are great at answering questions.

help me out and tonight we're tickled pink because our dear friend from Moore Farms Botanical Garden Bennett Dowling is here and it's been hot and so what's happening in the garden?

Are y'all just like please fall.

where is the time where we get cranky we start getting a little short with each other.

real tired of sweating, but we're we're we're optimistic and happy this time of year.

because we're getting into a tree planting time and we'll start planting bulbs and flowers in the next month month and a half.

so it's time for renewing.

Ya'll actually keep some information on the bulbs and share it.

I think have a way so people can sometimes kind of tell which ones are doing well and better, and I and we we were getting better about updating our database.

we didn't use to keep good records of anuals and some of our more seasonal change.

we're starting to do that more and it's good to know and then with bulbs in the south of so difficult.

because it often of chilling time for a lot of fun and I said most of them look good the first year.

but only ones that look good from year to year to year that's much more limited and we're really working to try to not have to plant so many every year.

can we find the good ones that will provide interest?

and when I came I enjoyed seeing that instead of just I'm sure if you went Holland got to see the field of tulips that would be facinating but Ya'll have them spaced kind of intriguingly yeah I don't like X. over those areas for bedding.

but we we do a lot of areas that trying to not look so bedded.

so, pockets of things and I like to make it look like a really Sassy squirrel did that design.

That is the right way to describe squirrels, when they flick their tails and they gave me an answer Jackie Jordan is an extension agent, horticulture agent and she is several counties and I never keep them straight so I'm not even going to try to do that I love the fact that you really specialize in turf situations and people cause a lot of problems for their turf over do it.

exactly over watering, cutting the grass of the wrong height.

those are just basic maintenance tasks go a long way in keeping a lawn nice and healthy.

but the water is a big one.

yeah yeah seeing a lot of diseases.

dollar spot is one that's brought on by over watering.

a lot of times greatly spot is over watering as well.

so if people sometimes they think that the spring is the time to treat but some people have problems every year, but they do better to put a preventative treatment out fungicide in the fall is that ever.

you can as a there are a lot of their different diseases and knowing which one you have.

that's why if you think you have a problem in your lawn, I would say send your turf sample up to the diagnostic clinic.

because they can tell you exactly what you have then you know because the different diseases curry different times of the year and yes you can put preventive applications out there.

that and good cultural habits go along way.

We talked about cutting at the right time watering appropriately and all that as well.

okay thanks so much and Tony Melton and you have a a although your small fruits and vegtable specialist.

I guess from being from McBee you know about sandy soils.

turfs and you know I said that some people to pay too much, adore there centipede to much.

Yeah they'll over water it to much and they'll caues the large patch diseases to come in and it's just don't over fertilize centipede is especially it is a poor man's grass is what we can to Call it.

I call it a red neck grass.

because it's kind of lazy it kinda sits around.

You give it and treated to well.

gets to growing to thick then it has a large and we've had some extremely, got a long stretch of hot weather and the farmers would put a lot of the fall greens in early and they responded to this hot hot weather?

specially in sandy areas they are not growing very well.

they stay in there and they'd lose and some to stand in this yeah it's been tough, been tough on me, I thought I was gonna croak Friday last week trying to plant some greens out in the field.

It's even getting out there in a plant collards and spinnage.

so they're not replanting.

they're still alive but they've been held back a good many a magnet is kind of a field was up and down the little wetter areas are always a little bit better than your dryer areas get stubbornness sand is it's just to hot.

I would go in McBee, we tried to walk with bare feet and it's so hot you couldn't take your shoes off.

I can remember crossing the streets in downtown Columbia barefooted, and walk on the white painted lines I by wish use these days well there is a lot grew up probably where they do did wears shoes.

Well because she grew up in a beautiful part of upstate New York but now we're so glad she's down here because she comes to help with all the time and she has all kinds of things planned for us and I imagine one of them is going to be a question that is going to have us scratching our heads.

well there's lots of talent on the panel so I'm sure there will be great advice.

I hope you at home are considering joining us through Facebook live.

so not only can you view as to your cable or satellite provider.

but we are at your fingertips as long as you have internet access, just go to our Facebook page and click on the live stream and you'll see it now it could get a little confusing as the timing is a bit off.

so it's sort of like your living in multiple times zones, all at the same time but through Facebook live you can comment to ask questions you can click on one of the little emoticons on the screen and I get to see it fly up over there and it down give me a happy feeling.

so go ahead and do that.

well let's test the panel now with our question of the week.

this is from green out Walker peoples and she sent in photographs she said any advice the darker blooms on my Confederate roses fail to open and fall off just the darker ones and so I asked for some additional information, it turns out the mother plant is a double and she took cuttings and now hers is only producing single flowers and she says there are two different colored flowers lighter ones in darker ones and it's just the darker ones that don't seem to get past this stage that you see right now.

so it's like the the flowers are not completely opening.

so I do know Confederate rose tends to flowers generally start out light and dark in overtime but bring assured me that that is not what is going on with these particular flowers.

So gonna turn it over to our panel of experts and see what they have to say.

and I'm just gonna say the Confederate rose is one of those things that you stick in a bucket cutting a bucket in the winter in the garage and you plant it and then it then you then you eventually have to keep it under, then is get together marketing is going to go the whole yard I did they had to work roses but didn't win anything that was new to me the only thing I'd known with that the flowers darken as the an old and I thought maybe she was just missing it and finding them falling off when they're finishing up, but it sounds like she's watching closer than I ever did.

what do you think checking well we talk about blossom drop and there's also a lot of different plants it's usually extremes, extreme humidity, extreme heat, watering under watering sometimes even PH will make different plants lose their blossoms.

but she said in some pictures where there were some leaves and I've done some research with the university of Florida and they had some information on hibiscus bud drops.

same thing that you know is related to thrips and white flies, is when you take a look at the picture of the believes are little pin pricks of lighter color.

okay.

just maybe it's a combination of our weather and to some insects causing it.

and the thrips a bit they don't when heat comes, they're happy we we fuss but they like it don't they population is increased too.

so many of them and and if you've grown any vegetables, tomatoes and beans you know thier flowers drop because of the exsessive amount of thrips.

if they get in there and damage the flowers in the fall off.

it will do some only you can do I have this kiss and I think cotton does the same thing.

the flower opens and then darkenes, correct and cotton and I have discussed some of the same I'm and I called Joey Williamson and it is one of the people who answers the phones at H.G.I.C.

because he gets calls from all over not but you know it you know he just got such a good bit the overall picture, and he said that he thanks he felt like the arm when the cooler weather came that she might see some opening of those flowers so so that's gonna you know a lot of times they just get like I said that book somebody gave me nineteen twenty reasons why babies cry, and twenty was lord only knows.

so Terasa thank you and thank her please for sharing, and get us out of do a little research and try to learn a little bit more.

I sure will sometimes the world this mysterious, no matter what aspect of the world we're talking about including our backyards and gardens, but it the the flowers that she was getting looked beautiful so enjoy them while they are there.

it's time now for us to take our virtual field trip around the state, where you can enjoy other people's yards gardens and landscape so we're going to start in Walhalla South Carolina with Melanie Morris photo of her sun patience of course these enjoy the sun as opposed to their shade loving cusins, and then moving on to Summerville South Carolina Arlene Lyons Weeks, shared this picture of an annul on a sweet potato vine and I just absolutely love it.

I think she must have been talking to the annul as he looks like he is he or she I don't see the throat patch so I'm not certain if it's a male or female but is just sitting there in perfect position looking at the camera.

we're going to wrap up this week with Andrea Hattlar Bramson from Bluffton South Carolina and she stared at shared a photo of her night blooming cereus what's amazing not only about how this flower blooms is that this plant seems to have some frequent flyer miles.

she said that it began its life in Greenville went to Columbia moved to the metro Washington DC area then to Miami back to northern Virginia and is now happily living in the low country.

so that is an amazing story thanks to everyone who shared their photographs the beauty and creativity and diversity is absolutely amazing.

if you would like to share a photograph of your yard garden landscape could be indoor plants as well we will make a post on our Facebook page and you can post there.

do try to send us photographs that are wider than they are tall that does better on TV and include your city or town so we can let others know where you're from.

Amanda back to you.

thank you that was fun and I've read that the past when people have night blooming cereus the moon that they have a party.

you know I think that was a four people were glued to the internet the TV and all that, and so there was a special going on you go to your neighbor's house sit there and watch the plants, watch it open and get to know your neighbors that's kind of fun.

Mike's calling us from Greer.

we're happy to hear from you tonight and tell us how we might be able to help you please.

well I've actually got two questions.

the second one is really for Tony the first one is for anyone in the panel.

but if I live on a very wooded property in the course every fall I get inundated with the leaves when they fall.

one is one is dry I'll burn as many as I can along with all the dead tree limbs I can.

and then when it's wet, I'll just put them in a pile and let them slowly disintegrate over a year two, where they'll actually kind of turn almost into dust over time, but are the ashes and are the decaying leaves I think they can a good organic source for a garden?

we'll we'll we'll do our best to answer that.

would give your second question if you don't mind.

I'm sorry.

go ahead give me your second question too.

Tony hasn't been on in a while.

but at at some show your probably several months ago by now.

he had mentioned that he liked Kennebec potatoes and I live in Greenville.

I got plenty of stores to choose from but I cannot find those anywhere, maybe you can help me out.

well I was going to say that with children with asthma and things like that I really am personally opposed to burning leaves and in cities it's generally not allowed I just think that it's much better to allow others to compost I don't think we need to put more on burned part of products in the air on I may have missed that what's your feeling?

I'm always afraid of it because if there's poison ivy leaves and that you because the real health problem too, burning because that compound can be carried yeah some people are real large is in the real dangerous.

I would hold my breath when I drive by a fireman they're burning but I always composting at my old job, and we do wind rows which is real long skinny rows of leaves that they don't stay dry in the middle, and let them get wet all the way through.

compost, yeah I usually have too many greens never again as it is and I know a lot of friends and save the Browns all year and bangs and then use them throughout the summer when they needed and I think our farmers even he used to burn fields now there's been a complete trend away from that, because they know that it's first of all it's just not helpful for the environment and that the organic matter that you get from the leaves decaying is better than, it usually gives nutrients back to the plant soil, lot better I mean and protects the soil to keep it from eroding.

Back when I was young I used to go that go go down to the river and watch the farms go by Amanda.

Because you could see there are a yeah yeah now you won't leave that material all many keeps from rivers okay so you've got so tell us about these potatoes and milk in a bag K. E. N. N. E. B. E. C. I think it is and they're very good potatoes and all one has been around for ever now you get a lot of the newer ones but can a mac I'd to schools maybe he did needs to grow seven seventy can't find some in the grocery stores.

Which they is makes a nice smooth potato.

Okay about the grand sweet potatoes doing with this heat they don't mind that do they?

They love the heat.

Morning glory family in that email bring I sleep if you don't get enough heat it's hard to get up good size, which is that we don't have a sweet potatos.

we got those sweet potatos.

Well Ju Ju is up in Rock Hill where our wonderful friend Paul Thompson is.

He's gonna be with this next week and Ju Ju how can we help you?

We appreciate everything you guys do and enjoy everything you teach me.

I'm concerned about those companies spraying for Skeeters in the daytime.

I confront a lot of these major companies about it and they just laughed at me.

My second question is how can I get my garden pictures?

I don't do the Facebook.

can you do them by email?

Your picture to us?

yeah for the gardens.

Okay okay.

I'm sure that you can send it to the TV station here or our Terasa, is your email one that is available to people?

Sure absolutely you can send it to my email.

That's Terasa terasa@clemson.edu, you do make sure you spell it correctly there's someone that is Tereasa at Clemson so essay at Clemson dot EDU the gardens of the week in the subject line and then I'll know exactly what your email is directed toward and we'll be happy to try to include that.

Thanks.

When my children were little we could play outside all the time because the Asian tiger mosquito wasn't here and that's the day time biter that came in at some point and Tony talk a little bit about anybody who spraying for mosquitos is supposed to have a pesticide license and they are doing things that are legal and I have heard good people get talk and I'm sorry that people have been this man says that some people have laughed at him.

I've heard some applicators talk about the steps they go to try to educate the clients about removing places where they breed.

would you address that the anything that holds water.

even a cup or anything the holdes Water, bottle cap okay any thing even the Cupped magnolia leaves witch so many of are cupped.

That's right they'll hold their home that little bit of moisture in those mosquitoes will breed in that.

So we get rid of as much as you can and go back to earlier mmhm the way I'd get rid of Manali leaves a lot of time in a lot of Miley just mole just cut them up into little pieces and then the compost much faster and you get rid of the water and and you get rid of the skeeters and everything.

So you want to get rid of all that water and then if you have places Waters do stand.

I have a stream beside my house and places that holds some water.

There's some mosquito dumps which is a B.T.

which is a naturally material that will kills the larve in their Miskito larve in that water munis film in there but I will say it I mean when I go outside I have to spray with deet.

and and I know a lot of people don't want to do that with the children and it is legal to do and it certainly does affect some non target organisms but there it is legal and if I hope that most of the companies the ones I've heard get talks about it.

seem to try to do it in the most thoughtful manner possible, said this is it's very tough to have children and have them eat a live.

The way I would like to do it is sprayed non flowering plants.

Because that's what I'm skews gone be they got they don't be and plants they don't come in settling the plants and come around so if you don't want to spray a flowering plant never spray a flowering plant.

Because... thick evergreen shrubs and things like that that are flowering try to concentrate the products of the that's right in.

okay all right Clemson has always tried to help the people of South Carolina get good research based information and be healthier and I started out teaching people how to can their food so they wouldn't get botulism and now we've sometimes eat to much food and obesity and hypertension can be problems and we use our rural health the nutrition team has coordinated with the up with some other agencies and they are going to prison programs to address that and we had some of those agents come visit us and give us a lot of helpful information.

Our guests today are Shanna Sykes and Emily Moody, extension agents with Clemson's Rural Health and Nutrition program.

Emily tell me where you are and what program you're working on.

So I'm in Greenville County and I'm working on a program called Health Coaches for Hypertension Control.

So I work with participants in the community that have high blood pressure.

And we just cover topics about nutrition and physical activity medication management, stress management, things like that, all related to hypertension.

How many times do you meet with them?

We meet once every two weeks for about four months.

And is it for a full day or just a part of the day.

We just meet for an hour.

And we kind of have a support group.

And we do a lot of discussions.

So I don't wanna be up there just talkin at them the whole time.

We do a lot of group discussion.

So it's not a huge commitment for them to do it.

But have you seen any good results?

I have actually.

I had a participant last week.

He came in and told me they'd cut salt out of his diet and replaced it with Misses Dash.

And he likes the spicier flavor.

So he was doing that.

And his doctor let him know that his blood pressure was down to one thirty over seventy.

So that was great news.

That was a pretty good result wasn't it?

Yes ma'am.

Okay.

Shanna tell us where you're located and what programs you're involved with.

So I'm in Anderson county.

And I also teach the hypertension class as well.

But we also have the first-ever South Carolina baby cafe.

And really it's just a support group for women in the area who are breastfeeding or want to breastfeed.

I'm a certified lactation counselor.

So I can help them if they have any breastfeeding needs.

And they can just call us cause sometimes locations will vary and times might change.

We also have a school wellness check list where we were trying to reduce childhood obesity in the county.

We're working with school district four on that wellness check list.

It's addressing things such as nutrition and physical activity in the school and not just for the students but also for the teachers and the staff as well.

Now you don't have to go in and teach every component of that, do you?

Doesn't the school, you give them suggestions and ideas.

Yeah and part of it is facilitating in the community anybody that would love to come in and teach the kids nutrition or physical activity.

Or you know anything that they want to teach or do for the teachers as well.

And so it's just making those connections but also you know guiding them on directions on how to improve the nutrition and physical activity in the schools.

Well today, I think we were going to specifically talk about salt and high blood pressure or hypertension and why is that such a connection and why is it important to learn about it?

Well salt is actually one of the biggest contributing factors in the diet to high blood pressure and Americans typically get way more salt than they actually need and we, about twenty three to twenty four hundred milligrams is a recommended salt intake daily.

And that's actually about the size of a teaspoon here.

But people with high blood pressure they actually need less than this.

And it's about fifteen hundred milligrams.

So if, that doesn't mean though that I get to put that much salt out and use that much every day because don't a lot of the foods that are prepared already have salt in them?

So that's why we're here to talk about some spices and herbs and substitute of salt.

Because it is in so many foods already.

But also you know that's not a whole lot.

Even if you're just sprinkling a little bit here and there in your cooking.

It can really add up.

And most Americans, how much do you think that they get on average?

So twenty four hundred is the recommended amount.

Oh gosh I would think maybe three or four.

Thirty four hundred milligrams is how much an average average American gets, Way more.

.. So it's way more than they need.

Now how about these salt substitutes that or what they called lower salt or something like that in there.

Potassium in, Well, there's a no salt.

It's called no salt.

And if you look on the back it'll say potassium instead of the sodium.

And it's a good substitute but you talk to, you have to talk to your doctor.

Because it does have potassium in it, it can interfere with some of the medication.

Oh okay!

So don't just make that switch without, Don't make that, Always talk to your doctor too.

Well, it looks like maybe we could use some herbs and decide not to you so much salt is that what we going to talk about.

We're actually going to make a little dip for our bread today.

And it's got basil in it, thyme sage, marjoram and some garlic.

I think that's what we put in it.

So we have a little bit of olive oil here.

We're just going to drizzle it on this plate here.

Very artistically done.

And then you can sprinkle that.

This is to taste.

Now I love a lot of spices and herbs.

So it's just how you like to taste and how much you like.

So.

And from this point we just have a nice spread of bread.

And you just dip it in and that's a really good appetizer.

But tell me if people want to learn more about y'all's programs, how to get that information.

So they can contact their local extension office.

And there's so many different counties that have different programs going on.

And that would be the best way to find out what's going on in their community.

Okay.

Thank you for sharing this information.

I think now we ought to share the bounty.

Yes.

Thank you.

Very good.

Well these, I learned alot from those girls and got a lot of good ideas, when I start looking at the amount of salt on some of the can goods and things I get there is a lot of it in there.

If you have your eye glasses on take a moment and look in there sometimes you can find one that is a little bit lower.

I found some tomatos that are a lot lower in salt.

They're perfectly good.

We kind of accustom to too much salt sometime, and at the movies I started taking some on the popcorn putting nutritional yeast on it.

it's wonderful.

So if your a pop corn fanatic and you want to pop your pop corn and you want to cut out the salt get some nutrictional yeast and it realy is an amazing flavor to flavor things up.

Shanna is a lactation specialist and she has a place in the Anderson office set up where people can come to nurse and she helps small that new mothers and she in court they have a way that they can save breast milk people have extra and send it to a new pasturise it is sent to MUSC and used in the neonatal intensive care.

Where apparently is extremely important.

It's called the baby cafe is gonna to start back in a few weeks, and so she stayed we talked about that and that interview with her is already posted on Making it Grows Facebook page or if you go to S. C. E. T.

V.

's YouTube page you can see and learn about that wonderful project that she has going in the Anderson extension office.

As that's a pretty that's a lot more fun than getting crab grass.

coming in isn't it?

It is Terasa.

you course or sit there are you getting some of those wonderful floating emoji said that they have happy faces some advice but we have had a few of those little floating happy faces or thumbs up.

Which always gives me a good feeling.

Happy to welcome Vicky into the chat room so she is moderating from home so if you have any questions specifically about insects, of course her background of course is in entomology so is she is a great resource to have on there.

In fact that we're just a little bit about mosquitoes and controlling mosquitoes and the university of Maryland has a great fact sheet out on the use of essential oils for mosquito control.

so we did post the link into the comments on Facebook live and I will do my best to remember to post that on the Facebook page.

after the show's over as well.

Amanda Back to you.

Thank you so much Sam's down at James Island and we're glad to hear from somebody.

How things down the coast Sam?

Hey, thank you very much for taking my call.

I received about five very large terra cotta plants from an elderly neighbor.

Who can no longer take care of them.

Hibiscuas hydrangeas Lohriapi the amaryllis etc.

etc.

They've obviously been in the pots for quite a while she said okay a to put him in the dirt now or should I wait until well I wouldn't wait till spring I think I will wait until see how did October November that's a great source they commit one is a little bit cooler because I know how I am people party had to plant in the in the spring but in the south if we plant now don't those roots get to grow and really help to get that plan established in the fall.

if we plant fall.

Yeah and even up there yeah this was the best except for with perennials you waited.

Yeah the only one I'd be question about is the high biscuits because we don't know if it's a tropical or Chinese high biscuits he might not be able to guess if it was in a big terra cotta pot it was probably one that stayed outside.

It's because yeah I mean I'm just guessing on the other half is tropical so but even even with planting in the fall.

You still need to water things give some extra water.

You can't just ignore them you did and you should also since they're in pots and you don't know how long they've been in pot he should wash the roots off and look and make sure that they're not circling so they create as a so much, for okay not Tony you got a show and tell.

I've got a hibiscus right here.

We had one at my house.

what is normally this may not be the hot biscuits that we're he's talking about this is a hibiscus family member.

Yes it is this some plantation I certainly you know main is a large plant woody plant that grows in the south real well.

Rose if you share got another relative of it back there okay it's in the fields that are farmers are growing to I'm Thats right and the reason I brought this is mostly is that this time of year people are smelling things in the air and it's cotton defoliant.

A whole lot of time and these at that one this one's been defoliating started the leaf drop and lead to start a draw yes and they get read it all the leaves and then the cotton is there one word a picker can give to it real well and I also brought a spindle from a cotton picker was it called a spindle spindle and what it does it his little burrs on it and it sticks in and grabs a whole little cotton and pulls it out and then twisted off on the doffer and it goes into the cotton picker okay so go slow and let us get okay so far shows shows that the burrs on that is really rough uses his little burrs on it it hurts you figure if you pull across and it what it does it catches turn this turning and in it he find get it to catch.

see if it pulls to cotton on out.

Okay.

Right back out the opposite way and it goes into effect that's how we Picasso what the purpose of the defoliant is that you don't want the leaves getting mixed up because it discolors the cotton.

there's trash in the cotton and it's you know then the farmer gets docked at the cotton gin because it got all this trash in there.

But you want it clean pretty and nice.

Okay.

And so the the defoliant so they now applied from a high a high riding sort of applicator or from a crop duster or he knew the way there's a lot of a lot of different ways depending on whether the farmer has time to get into the field or how much rain we have you know last last year a lot of cotton was left in the fields because it was so wet they couldn't get cotton.

Those very big heavy cotton pickers in the field god well that was fascinating and thank you so much for whoever loaned that to you so that we could show to show it thank you very very much and Jackie thank you for reminding us that on we need to look at the roots where they've even if we get a plant from the store.

I bet y'all y'all get so many plants of it every now and then you run into one that's root bound and have to it's not in me you just have to go head sometimes and just cut those which are yeah every time we dig up a declining or dead tree at work.

The roots are like that if you don't it's more dangerous to be nice to the tree than to not beat it up first and because it takes five to ten years for a tree to die because of it because of the circling roots string you say and what you really see it a lot when a tree dies we have a good number of years where there was some bad tree planting going on and I think I'm probably about ten to twenty a year.

That the roots are completely.. Or the cage was left on them and they don't be built here don't be too nice to be a do cut those roots if necessary.

Because the roots that are doing all the work are the little fine hair roots.

The ends of the bigger roots.

those being and regenerate very quickly yes.

Okay Well Terasa we were hoping that you might have something that was happening over there that we might be interested in hearing about.

We miss all of our old chatters the hens and all those people.

a lot of those people are commenting through Facebook live, and I do have a question that I thought I would throw over to the panel.

Robert lives in Greenwood I'm not sure it whereabouts but in Greenwood he was asking about rebels grass so I had to look up rebels I was not familiar with that but I believe it is the type of tall fescue so since Jackie is on and I know grass at turf grass is one of our specialties I thought maybe she could talk about tall fescue where in the state it might be able to grow and maybe tips on selecting a long grass Jackie what do you think?

Tall fescue definitely a cool season grass so it will grow from the Piedmont up to the mountain region it grows when we have cooler temperatures so it thrives in like eighty five degree days down to the sixty so it should be seeded coming up in mid September so I would start between now and October first reseeding.

Reseeding your lawn if you need to.

Now these grasses is green in the winter and they slow down a little bit in the winter they grow back in the spring.

Okay.

They do a lot of the growth in the fall and in the spring and then there dormant in the third time in the summer so I don't go dormant like our warm season turf grasses in the winter.

They stay green but it is the period of stress for them.

They do not like ninety ninety five degree weather and If your in Colombia it's not going to go the south topic you is not gonna do well you're going to get very bald patch he spotted a lawn so it's very much for the Piedmont in up to the mountain region.

Okay well thank you so much well are there some warm season grasses that if they have a kind of transition layers of both the growing sometimes you where you have so Bermudians wish our to the most cold tolerant warm season grasses.

So they both did very well on that with very he tolerant and very and core temperature tolerant there's a lot of different varieties so you get a little bit different cultivars Sam he does well throughout miss the state St Augustine mostly from the coast up to the midland.

So and depends where you are as to what's the best turf grass.

Ya'll have some brown circles and grass occasionally that you come upon if you're touring that Moore Farms and you have so much other stuff I feel like there ornamental features and sometimes I feel like I should walk around a not walk on I know it's it's funny how many people can't figure out how to get into the park because the line is so beautiful at the visitor center they don't realize they're allowed to walk on it.

I say no you have to do it.

It is amazing how on how beautifully it get that you got someone who's a specialist to keep someone in the eyes of the people work with them and he's an absolute genius with lawns.

It's the most beautiful.

I even appreciate and people who like pretty yeah launch usually don't get don't get really excited now it it's amazing we on the cake is pretty is the is the cake and then on the night stand he did not want to see what she would learn and I learned I want to speak to Kelly thanks a smirk who took John allowed John Nelson and the and the competence and she showed us beautiful places on his family's property down upon would and John and I got to scout around and find out what's growing on a seep.

♪ We're in Clarendon County near the lovely town of Pinewood.

Today we are visiting the farm that belongs to Chase Smoak's family.

Chase is the new extension agent with Sumter County and I'm with Doctor John Nelson of the A.C.

Herbarium at the University of South Carolina who loves to go botonizing.

And I think you just about died and gone to heaven down here.

I think this is going to end up being one of my famous botany favorite famous botany places from now on.

And John looking around people would say gosh it looks a little bleak and that's because this property, this section was logged which is wonderful.

That means that you can send your children to college and plants like it when you remove the timber too.

Yeah there's been a considerable amount of disturbance here in this formerly wooded area.

So they cut down most of the trees as you see around here.

And others have been replanted.

So they're growing another forest.

Meanwhile all the plants that had been here suddenly have been released because there's a lot more sunlight coming down.

So the ones that were just kind of whoo, here's a little bit of sun every, just struggling along, suddenly you know it's is wonderful for them.

So they'll be able to attain greater size and reproductive vigor we like to see.

And there's even something more special happening here.

And that's because this is what is called a seep, which sounds kinda like something's leaking.

Is water kind of leaking?

It is sort of a leaking.

And it's it's kind of hard to pin down what exactly a seep is or seepage sometimes we we call it.

But they're generally wet places on otherwise dry hillside or slope of some sort.

And the presence of water generally, the constant presence of water, really has a great effect on the resultant plant life that's going to develop at such a place.

Well while we were tropping around and I have on high boots and you just got your feet wet, we saw a fascinating display of plants, some of which have to have this kind of situation.

So let's talk about some of the ones that you spotted here today that are specific to places that have more moisture than normal.

And most of those are wetland plants that is plants that are typically found in association with water or actually in water.

I guess those are the aquatic plants.

Now a lot of the plants that we have around here are indeed wetland species.

We saw a lot of sedges to start with.

Let's talk about the ones that we saw.

Sedges are great stand.

We're standing in it right now, a big patch of Rhynchospora or Beak Rush.

They're actually several species of Beak rush that are out here and they're a very interesting group of species.

And beyond the Beak Rush, is there are other sedges called.

I don't even know it has a common name but Verbena is a genus and beyond those there are quite a number of different grasses that are present.

And we think of grass as being in more dry places.

But there are some that want this.

So which is some of the grasses that we saw.

One of the very common grasses it's almost in every wetland in the state is a panic grass, which we found.

And it's very easy to identify as long as you have a hand lens because it's got little bumps on it's spotlets.

You let me look at that a little bit.

And then we saw some flowering plants.

And everything flowers.

But I know we saw some things that people who like color and more what seems like a plant.

Conspicuous flowers are what most people see when they go on a botony trip.

One was orange and it was just bright and shiny.

I mean.

And it's gorgeous that was probably the Orange Milkwort which actually Chase found, and we made such a fuss about.

Polygala lutea which is a beautiful thing.

But we also saw species of Rhexia, the Meadow Beauty and then we also saw Seed Box.

the reddish seed box.

There's a species called Ludwigia leptocarpa which grows runners tiny little yellow petals.

Beautiful stuff and a lot of these things would actually be suitable I think for a bog garden.

Lobelia.

Lobelia I think that's kind of my fave out here.

It's got a sort of a sky blue corala of flowers.

Beautiful and they really do love these wet places that are full of sunlight.

We saw a clamoring vine that you said is nice because it's late.

And when pollinators... It's one of the, one of the few viney species that we've got in the sunflower family.

And it's got a funny name, Climbing Hemp.

And that's Mikania scandens which is actually probably in every county of South Carolina.

I think it's lovely.

I do too.

I wish I had some behind my house at the deck.

Well you have a lot of things there.

But I'm sure Chase would happily let you do some collecting.

And then John interestingly we do also see things that we associate with regular soil situations, that sometimes or even for dry places we see Bracken fern.

Bracken fern of course that's one of the that's kind of an odd ball sort of a fern.

It can be on the very driest slopes.

Yes.

All you gotta do is go to someplace like peach tree rock.

Yes, yes.

But you can also find that in fairly wet ditches of the coastal plain.

Here it's sort of betwixt in between because it will get down into this seepage area although we would thank that it's more at home on the dryer part of the hillside.

And then I've got on a black shirt and I had some had to kind of fluff it off.

Because I had a lot of their seeds on me.

And those were from I think just our common Broom sedge.

Broom sedge is very abundant out here and it's like going crazy you know.

Fruiting is making it's little spikelets, one seeded fruits, grains.

And it can be in dry fields or very adaptable and can be found other places.

Now there are a number of species of Broom sedges.

Andropogon and they're not always easy to identify.

I'll leave that to you.

Grasses are difficult.

John I was talking with my friend Mike Stallworth who had been with DNR and he said the seepages also are important for wildlife, particularly amphibians which we don't often think about.

But they're kind of having trouble sometimes because the ground stays wet enough for them to be able to have their reproductive.

To breed and of course since it is a seepage and not of a pond or some kind of a little lake, there aren't gonna be any fish to bother.

(laughter) Some little tadpole's aren't going to end up in the brim.

That's important if you know for the herpetologist to be aware of places like this that are at least potential habitat for different kinds of amphibians and reptiles.

As we see our state changing and we lose some of these micro climates.

It's important that they are recognized and I think Chase and his family are saying that this one they believe that they'll even though we've got some pines on it that they're gonna burn it periodically.

And that will allow the sunlight to continue so that these plants you described can have a bigger screen.

That would not keep knocking back the woody vegetation which ultimately would be invading here.

And that would be nice if people do have you know the listeners, if they have anything like this on their property, maybe they could take care of it any way they can.

Now that doesn't always mean that it's possible to burn your landscape, but to take care of it in whatever way you can just keep it going.

Well I think it's nice that we got families like the Smoak, who are committed to the environment and the natural community and that they even let people like us come in and have such a glorious days exploring.

They're really nice people.

Thank you, John.

Thank you, Amanda.

♪ it was a wonderful day and later that day we went to another part of the property and chase and John stood with their feet in the water five upon of quite a big pond and look at the plants that were just right within reach and that was also a fascinating.

John will be with us next week.

So be sure to put that on your calendar and tune in because it's really fun but doctor John comes to making it Grow.

A cousin of my husband's Catherine Wanamaker London has a mountain place and she let us go last week my daughter Alisa Frazee was visiting from California and we got to go to the to cashiers and there was no phone service or anything like that and it was very restful.

a little stressful getting used to it, but we went to this wonderful farmers market down town and they had these gorgeous gourd, and these were the little bitty once and I'm a said Edward I bet we could make a hat out of it and and what is my husband he can do just about anything when he wants too.

That's the that's the trick with us but they have to want to do it anyway so you got up this morning and made me this great hat.

I thought it was really fun and so this is my gourd hat because one day it will be fall.

I'm sure is coming on so there we go.

I think we're waiting for next phone caller Jimmy is calling us from Bennetsville we're sure glad to hear from you and how can we help you tonight?

My wife has a bed of day lillies about eight to ten feet by about twelve to fouteen feet it's a small one but traffic pretty forget so they'll bad about twice a year laughter called room let me look bad I absolutely so all we can go back out of place follow what effect the best way to for me to kill topically for and how old right they but I don't know Tony he's got some trumpet creeper in his daylilies.

Now I don't think there's a herbicide he can use it on a daily yeah yeah yeah yeah and you don't want to kill your wifes day lillies now I will say that sometimes they do need to be thinned on and so if there's a time Tony if he was going down the daily she can do that in the fall.

If the trumpet creeper still been there then could he go in and spray it if you took them all out and then we planned to pull them apart yeah you have to wait a little while because there is some waiting time.

But what if he is round a person that doesn't have residual and complicate over a dozen roundup doesn't do a very good job on it maybe triclopyr and 2 4 d would do much better so to stump cut and then painted directly on whenever you call in because I did that when I was in a house triclopyr.

Yeah I did when I signed up but it didn't work very well like you said yeah I don't know doesn't can't tricolor okay and he can buy that right sometimes some rush killer yeah I'm so it on you we would so try that and talk to your call your local extension office an on air or or Clemson H.G.I.C.

and talk to them, about how to go about that to best effectively apply that herbicide and remember to read the label before you do it and I know with with triclopyr you are to wear protective goggles because you can't get in the are you disturbed interested yeah so promise me you'll read the label and follow it carefully so that you won't on end up with any bad results.

On and that you will have positive results and get me that trumpet creeper.

A native vine, but boy it can be aggressive.

Yes.

Franks in Hilton Head fight happened here from you what's your question?

Hello?

I had a, hello yes we hear you okay I have a question about the love seems like in the last two days and they have been Allen's forms and are they just at the end of the summer for fall I never really paid attention or do they come in the spring and as well and also look I can see the tower house sometimes with all black whenever they leave the house where they go there my goodness gracious to us to take this one.

I think this one is is not the love bugs at later times in our lab tests in South America Costa Rica this is a there aren't any problems just as university and his name yes think stink bug twenty stink bugs most likely and I would the you can repel them with some pyrethroids a lot of time.

To be sprayed house lighter color houses seems like a track some more what time of year one into the most it all blurs together in my mind now.

Anybody remember pulling the wonder if all winter day trying to find a place to go and there looking for house to stay in actually.

And I have just had the first state bugs coming to my house that the ones that in the back this is the brown mom rated as a band that coming in ever had to get the vacuum cleaner that's got a hose and get him out of the curtains because I've got some sheer curtains in there they were so so I guess that does bring the seasons are changing some but that's what it is they're looking for placed over winter but fear they are fake but sometimes they are really really really really numbers yes if they are looking for a place to overwinter Adam and I thought that you know all those things have a way that they tried to get through the winter one way or another the insects are with us and they will be here long after we are Terasa thank you so much for everything you do in addition to running all the master gardeners to keeping track of all those volunteer hours and getting programs up been going and helping all those coordinators and then all that you do for us we sure lucky to have you.

It's my pleasure to be here, I have lots of help including the home and garden information center staff.

Chase and Vicki were both participating through Facebook live tonight and they help answer questions on there pretty regularly.

As do other agents that we farm out questions to one one week because none of us know what all we always rely on each other, and did you know it is national indoor plant week it's the third week in September.

So that would be a great reason for you to share your photos of your indoor plants we focus a lot on out there but indoor is important as well.

So hope to see you on Facebook and till next week.

Amanda thank you a Viki cop to commented that thank you for not only that this love bug season and that they're actually these the ones that we're talking about are the are type of fly it's in the then be only be a family or something like that and to be quite understand how to say it.

But you've got a nice show and tell for us that gives us a hope of fall as well.

Yes.

so this is a really quick botny lesson I brought and I just noticed this week the magnolia seed heads are startin to give us that extra interest for the season, and if you didn't know magnolias or one of the earliest blooming flowers from about over two hundred million years ago.

bees didn't exist at all so what what what these are pollinated by were Beatles and what they were designed with was all the male parts were down here in the flowers.

Female is at the top.

When it was pollinated this would form a protective coating because Beatles would eat through the overies by mistake.

When they're trying to find pollen.

They weren't delicate so that's why you get this armored shell and it breaks open in the fall and the seeds come out from their protective coating.

That they had, and they hang sometimes in the Senate that's kind of nice to burst good bye bye we thank everybody who was here tonight we're so glad to have you and we'll be back next week don't forget Dr John Nelson with be there soon thanks to Facebook so to a second share pictures night night.

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