
Panel Talks Housing-First Approach to Homelessness
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A new report shows an increase in Chicago's homeless population.
The Chicago inspector general recently released a report on how long people remain in their homes once they've been placed.
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Panel Talks Housing-First Approach to Homelessness
Clip: 10/17/2023 | 8m 52sVideo has Closed Captions
The Chicago inspector general recently released a report on how long people remain in their homes once they've been placed.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorshipACCELERATED MOVING EVENTS HAVE BENEFITED 1800 HOUSEHOLDS SINCE THEY BEGAN.
>> THE CHICAGO INSPECTOR GENERAL RECENTLY RELEASED A REPORT ON HOW LONG PEOPLE REMAIN IN THEIR HOMES ONCE THEY'VE BEEN PLACED THROUGH THOSE EVENTS AROUND THE SAME TIME, THE CHICAGO COALITION SHARED A REPORT SHOWING AN INCREASE IN THE CITY'S HOMELESS POPULATION.
HERE WITH MORE ON ALL OF IT ARE JULIE DWORKIN DIRECTOR OF POLICY FOR THE CHICAGO COALITION FOR THE HOMELESS MARQUIS DE SIMS, GRASSROOTS LEADER WITH THE CHICAGO COALITION FOR THE HOMELESS AND CHICAGO INSPECTOR GENERAL DE PERE.
WHAT'S BERG, THANKS TO THE 3 OF YOU FOR JOINING US.
GENERAL, WHAT'S BERG?
LET'S START WITH YOU, PLEASE.
WHAT DID YOUR REPORT ON THIS ISSUE FUND?
WE LOOKED AT THE CITY'S OUTREACH TO RESIDENTS OF ENCAMPMENTS.
THAT IS TO SAY A SUBSET OF THE CITY'S ON HOUSE POPULATIONS STAYING IN.
>> WHAT ARE SOMETIMES CALLED TENT CITIES.
WE LOOKED OUTREACH IN 2 CATEGORIES, ONE AROUND CLEANING OF THOSE ENCAMPMENTS.
BUT THEN SECOND MORE RELEVANT TO OUR CONVERSATION HERE TODAY.
THE CITY'S OUTREACH TO GET INTERESTED.
PEOPLE WHO ARE IN ENCAMPMENTS TO THESE ACCELERATING MOVING EVENTS.
THESE ARE INTERDISCIPLINARY EVENTS, LOTS OF SERVICES UNDER ONE ROOF.
>> TO HELP PEOPLE WHO WANT IT SECURE, STABLE HOUSING.
WE FOUND THAT THOSE EVENTS ARE VERY SUCCESSFUL AT HELPING PEOPLE SECURE HOUSING AND THAT THAT HOUSING IS QUITE STABLE.
VERY HIGH PERCENTAGE OF THE PEOPLE WHO SECURE HOUSING THROUGH THOSE EVENTS.
ARCE REMAIN HOUSE 6 MONTHS LATER, 2 IS WORKING FIRST.
REMIND US WHAT THE HOUSING FIRST APPROACH MEANS ALSO WHAT THE INSPECTOR GENERAL'S REPORT MEANS FOR USING THAT APPROACH.
>> SO HOUSING FIRST MEANS YOU IMMEDIATELY PUT SOMEONE IN HOUSING EVEN IF THEY'RE COMING STRAIGHT OFF THE STREET BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING ELSE BECAUSE THAT'S THE FOUNDATION YOU NEED TO STABILIZE SOMEONE.
>> ON THE INSPECTOR GENERAL'S REPORT, I THINK SHOWS HOW THESE ACCELERATED MOVING EVENTS ARE A GREAT METHOD TO BRING THE SERVICES TO PEOPLE AND GET THEM HOUSE VERY QUICKLY.
THE ONLY THING I WOULD CHANGE IS THAT I WOULD MAKE THE SUBSIDIES PERMANENT BECAUSE THESE ARE TEMPORARY SUBSIDIES, 18 MONTHS TO 2 YEARS.
AND AS THOSE SUBSIDIES AND WE'RE GOING TO BE SEEING PEOPLE STRUGGLING TO MAINTAIN THOSE APARTMENTS LOCATED SOMETHING THAT OBVIOUSLY WILL HAVE TO TALK AS AS WE KEEP GOING.
WITH REGARDS TO HOW YOU DESCRIBE HOUSING DOES THIS REPORT AND DOES THAT ARGUMENT SORT OF COUNTER THE ARGUMENT THAT >> FOLKS FIRST NEED MENTAL HEALTH CARE OR SUBSTANCE ABUSE TREATMENTS THAT NEEDS TO BE STABILIZED BEFORE THEY CAN SUCCEED AND HOUSING.
YEAH, I THINK THE IDEA IS THAT IT'S HARD TO GET YOUR MENTAL HEALTH CARE TO GET A JOB UNLESS YOU HAVE STABLE HOUSING AND A STABLE PLACE TO TAKE A SHOWER TO SLEEP AT NIGHT.
SO THAT'S WHY IT'S HOUSING FIRST APPROACH.
THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE NEED.
FIRST MARKET OUTSIDE OF, YOU KNOW, PROVIDING PEOPLE WITH HOUSING.
OBVIOUSLY, WHAT OTHER KIND OF WRAP AROUND SERVICES TO PEOPLE WHO ARE UNHOUSED AND ARE GETTING INTO A HOME, WHAT KIND OF SERVICES NEED.
THE NATIONAL HEALTH PACE.
>> ESPECIALLY BECAUSE IT MESSES WITH MENTALLY SPIRITUALLY HOLISTICALLY AS A WHOLE PERSON BECAUSE THE HOUSE AND THIS TAKES EFFECT YOU IN EVERY ASPECT OF YOUR LIFE.
SO THEY NEED.
COUNSELING.
THEY NEED THE THERAPY THEY NEED.
SO ACTUALLY JUST GO THROUGH PHASES OF HAVING LIKE A SUMMIT MANAGEMENT GOT THE ONE WITH THEM BECAUSE NOT EASY.
TRANSITION FROM SURVIVAL BACK AND THAT WHAT WAS YOUR EXPERIENCE?
WHAT WAS IT THAT THAT HELPS YOU INTO HOUSING STABLE E?
>> I WAS INCARCERATED IN IN SHELVES FLEEING FROM.
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PIECE.
WHEN I WAS IN MY HOME WITH MY FAMILY MEMBERS DOUBLED UP AND DOUBLED THAT IS NOT MY HOME NOT A LEASE ONLY SO.
I HAVE BAD THAT PEOPLE'S WILL LIVE IN THAT THEY GET BE ABUSIVE.
AND I HAD TO FLEE.
SO I END UP GOING TO A SHOW, SIR.
THEY HAD THOSE SERVICES THERE PROVIDED THAT ACTUALLY HELPS GET GROUND BECAUSE THEY HAD THE COUNSELING THEY HAD TRANSPORTATION.
THEY MADE SURE THAT I WAS HOW CAN I SAY?
STABLE ENOUGH TO STAND MY OWN SOPHIE AND MAKE SURE THAT I GET MY WELL-BEING BACK.
CORRECTED MY SELF-CARE SELF-LOVE SO I MOVE FOR WHAT MY WIFE.
>> JULIE, ACCORDING TO THE COALITION'S REPORTING 2021, AN ESTIMATED 68,000 PEOPLE ARE HOMELESS IN CHICAGO.
THAT'S UP.
2800 FROM LAST YEAR.
BLACK CHICAGOANS DISPROPORTIONATELY EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS ACCOUNTING FOR 53% OF THE UNHOUSED THESE NUMBERS THAT ARE TENS OF THOUSANDS LARGER THAN THE NUMBERS THAT WE HEARD FROM THE CITY'S ANNUAL POINT IN TIME.
COUNT, HOW DID YOU ARRIVE AT THAT FIGURE THAT 60,000?
WELL, IMPORTANT CONTEXT.
MOST PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS IN CHICAGO ARE NOT CONSIDERED HOMELESS BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
>> AND THEREFORE, THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO HOUSING RESOURCES.
AND THAT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT INCLUDING PEOPLE WHO ARE TEMPORARILY STAYING WITH OTHERS LIKE MARKET WAS DESCRIBING AND WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THOSE SITUATIONS, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A HOME SHARING OR A ROOMMATE SITUATION.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TEMPORARY PRECARIOUS, OFTEN UNSAFE SITUATIONS THAT CAN BE OVERCROWDED PICTURE, SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T HAVE A KEY TO THE APARTMENT.
THERE'S THEY'RE WAITING OUTSIDE IN THE COLD CHICAGO WINTER.
THEY'RE SLEEPING ON THE FLOOR.
THEY CAN BE ASKED TO LEAVE ANY TIME.
SO THOSE FOLKS ARE NOT COUNTED IN THE POINT IN TIME.
COUNT, WE CAME UP WITH A WAY OF COUNTING THOSE FOLKS ESTIMATING HOW MANY THERE ARE IN CHICAGO BY LOOKING AT CENSUS DATA.
SO OUR REPORT IS INCLUSIVE OF THOSE WHO ARE ON THE STREETS IN THE SHELTER AND ALSO THOSE LIVING UP DOUBLED UP THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF AN ENTIRE YEAR.
SO THAT ACCOUNTS FOR THE DIFFERENCE IN THOSE NUMBERS AND 65% OF THEM ARE IN THOSE DOUBLED UP SITUATIONS.
AND THAT'S WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO HAVE BROADER PERSPECTIVE ON THIS.
SO YOU REALLY UNDERSTAND THE SCOPE OF HOMELESSNESS IN CHICAGO AND WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO ADDRESS DEBORAH, REPORT SOMETHING YOU MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT OFFENSE AS THE DEPARTMENT FAMILY SUPPORT SERVICES, NOT KEY RING OUT, FORCED PERMANENT REMOVAL OF ENCAMPMENT RESIDENTS FROM PUBLIC SPACES.
>> HOW WOULD YOU SAY THE CITY'S PROCESS IS WORKING?
>> WE FOUND THAT IT'S WORKING QUITE WELL.
WE FOUND NO EVIDENCE OF THE CITY CONDUCTING FORCED REMOVALS OF EITHER PEOPLE OR THEIR BELONGINGS.
THE CITY HAS A POLICY LAYING OUT HOW IT WILL CONDUCT OUTREACH, HOW WE'LL GO ABOUT CLEANING ENCAMPMENT SITES.
WHAT THE RULES ARE AROUND PERSONAL PROPERTY, RESPECT FOR PEOPLE AND THEIR AND THEIR PROPERTY.
AS I SAY, WE FOUND NO EVIDENCE THAT THE CITY WAS REMOVING PEOPLE BY FORCE.
JULIE, WE KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING ADVOCATES ARE OFTEN WORKING DO YOU THINK THE CITY IS DOING ENOUGH TO PROTECT THE PROPERTY OF PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING IN ENCAMPMENTS?
YEAH, WE FEEL THAT WHAT'S REFLECTED IN THE REPORT IS DECADES OF WORK THAT HAVE BEEN DONE BY OUR ORGANIZATION TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE PROCESSES IN PLACE THAT PROTECT PEOPLE'S RIGHTS, PROTECT PEOPLE'S BELONGINGS.
AND THAT'S WHAT'S BEING REFLECTED FOR THE MOST PART.
THAT IS WHAT IS HAPPENING DURING THESE CLEANINGS.
>> THERE ARE STILL INSTANCES WHERE PEOPLE ARE BEING ASKED TO TO LEAVE IN A PERMANENTLY DISPLACED FROM ENCAMPMENTS WITHOUT FOR PERMANENT HOUSING.
AND WE CONTINUE TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
EXAMPLE WOULD BE WHEN THEY WERE CREATING A NATURE PRESERVE IN UPTOWN.
PEOPLE ARE ASKED TO TO MOVE.
PEOPLE LOST THEIR BELONGINGS AND SO WE THINK THAT THEY'RE DOING A MUCH BETTER JOB THAN THEY HAVE IN THE PAST.
BUT THERE STILL ARE INSTANCES WHERE IT'S HAPPENING.
MARKIE WHAT MORE DO YOU THINK THE CITY COULD BE TO SUPPORT PEOPLE WHO ARE UNHOUSED?
>> I FEEL THE CAMPAIGN THERE WERE WORKING ROOM FOR A CHICAGO HOME A PART OF BECAUSE HOUSE, WHERE AM I GOING TO SAY HOMELESS THIS TIME A HOUSELESS AND GIVE THEM THE CORRECT TERMINOLOGY SO THEY DON'T FEEL OFFENDED.
THEY PEOPLE ARE NEEDING TRANSFER TAX.
SO MAKE SURE THERE THEY ARE PERMANENTLY HAVE INSTEAD OF JUST 2 PER SITUATIONS LIKE MISS JULIE WAS EXPLAINING TO HOT OUT LOVE IN THE TRUST FACTOR IS SO PEOPLE ARE NOT GO.
SAID BECAUSE THEY FEEL LIKE YOU WANT TO AROUND AND KICK RIGHT BACK OUT.
SO TO HAVE THEIR HOUSING FEEL SECURE BECAUSE PEOPLE WITH FAMILIES AND ALL TYPE OF STUFF TO KILL THE STEREOTYPES THAT PEOPLE ARE JUST LAZY.
AND I JUST DON'T WANT TO DO IS PEOPLE OUT HERE.
IT IS NOT A LIVABLE WAGE.
THEY PEOPLE WORKING 2 OR 3 JOBS.
I'M A PRIME EXAMPLE TAKE A LOT MORE BASIC WAS OBVIOUSLY BEEN JUST PROVIDING A HOME.
THAT'S WHAT WE'LL HAVE TO LEAVE IT, THOUGH.
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